Plato: Laches, Protagoras, Meno, Euthydemus, (Loeb Classical Library, No. 165) (Greek and English Edition)
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Plato, the great philosopher of Athens, was born in 427 BCE. In early manhood an admirer of Socrates, he later founded the famous school of philosophy in the grove Academus. Much else recorded of his life is uncertain; that he left Athens for a time after Socrates' execution is probable; that later he went to Cyrene, Egypt, and Sicily is possible; that he was wealthy is likely; that he was critical of 'advanced' democracy is obvious. He lived to be 80 years old. Linguistic tests including those of computer science still try to establish the order of his extant philosophical dialogues, written in splendid prose and revealing Socrates' mind fused with Plato's thought.
In Laches, Charmides, and Lysis, Socrates and others discuss separate ethical conceptions. Protagoras, Ion, and Meno discuss whether righteousness can be taught. In Gorgias, Socrates is estranged from his city's thought, and his fate is impending. The Apology (not a dialogue), Crito, Euthyphro, and the unforgettable Phaedo relate the trial and death of Socrates and propound the immortality of the soul. In the famous Symposium and Phaedrus, written when Socrates was still alive, we find the origin and meaning of love. Cratylus discusses the nature of language. The great masterpiece in ten books, the Republic, concerns righteousness (and involves education, equality of the sexes, the structure of society, and abolition of slavery). Of the six so-called dialectical dialogues Euthydemus deals with philosophy; metaphysical Parmenides is about general concepts and absolute being; Theaetetus reasons about the theory of knowledge. Of its sequels, Sophist deals with not-being; Politicus with good and bad statesmanship and governments; Philebus with what is good. The Timaeus seeks the origin of the visible universe out of abstract geometrical elements. The unfinished Critias treats of lost Atlantis. Unfinished also is Plato's last work of the twelve books of Laws (Socrates is absent from it), a critical discussion of principles of law which Plato thought the Greeks might accept.
The Loeb Classical Library edition of Plato is in twelve volumes.
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- Published on: 1977-01-01
- Original language: English
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- Binding: Hardcover
- 508 pages
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Another useful volume in an excellent series
Like most volumes in the Loeb series, the emphasis is not on word-for-word precision in the translation, but on acheiving greater readability in broader terms. Since the original text in ancient Greek is provided on the facing page, the editors assume that anyone with a little knowledge of Greek can supplement the looseness of the translation by referring to the original. And in general, the compromises made in this way are good ones throughout the series. In this case, Lamb's translation remains sufficiently faithful to the original, especially in his Protagoras and Meno, to allow this volume to be used by the serious scholar.
The classical Greek search for the virtue of courage
I read this book for a graduate philosophy class. The classical Greek philosophers Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle were the midwives of Western civilization's "birth" of philosophy. Prior to the fifth century BCE classical Greek period, Greek citizens learned about virtuous actions including courage through their mythical religious beliefs, and epic poetry; such as, Homer's Iliad and The Odyssey. Thus, not until Socrates asks the question of what does the "good life" consists of do people ponder with reason and logic as their guide what constitutes virtues and how to practice them. Plato, like Socrates before him and Aristotle after him, believes in a virtue-based code of ethics where the end goal is to attain "happiness" which is understood by the classical Greeks as a flourishing" and is obtained only by performing virtuous acts.
Plato's short dialogue Laches is his literary vehicle to show Socrates exploring the virtue of courage. Socrates questions two famous Greek generals, Nicias and Laches, who participated in the Peloponnesian War, as did Socrates, in order to get at a definition of courage. The virtue of courage figures prominently in the second half of Plato's dialogue when Socrates asks both generals to define courage. It is important to note that though Socrates is the first philosopher to embark upon a search for a definition of virtue, he did not write his philosophy down. All of what we know of Socrates' teachings comes from the pen of Plato, one of his most devoted students. Laches first defines courage for Socrates by providing him three components of courage. A courageous person is "willing," "stands their ground in the face of the enemy," and "does not run." Laches' three components of courage are really just examples of the time-honored duty of Greek patriotism, which is derived out of a feeling or emotional attachment to one's country. In essence, the Greek citizen is "willing" to act out of a sense of duty to their city; "standing their ground" to protect their city from enemy attack. The citizen "does not run" in fear for their lives risking the safety of their city. Essentially, Plato's summation of these three components as spoken by Laches, is that courage comes from an "endurance of the soul." (p 34, (192c). Up to this point in the dialogue, Plato's definition of courage does not differ from the standard Homeric definition. However, when Socrates continues his questioning of Laches, he expands the scope of courageous actions to encompass perils of illness, sea travel and even into the political realm in hopes of better defining courage. Thus, Plato recognizes that there is a host of situations that requires a person to use courage to surmount whatever dangerous predicament they face. By posing the question this way, Plato through Socrates assumes that there is something else that people rely on to make them courageous. This is the real crux of the dialogue; to find out what else there is in the human condition that instills one with courage.
To accomplish this task, Plato introduces Nicias into the dialogue, who introduces the idea that it takes an amalgamation of emotions and wisdom for courage to be a universal virtue. With the introduction of wisdom into the mix, courage takes its "first step" forward from the heroic Homeric notion. For example, in the Homeric epics only aristocrats are depicted as acting courageously. It is important to recognize that by introducing these other hardships not related to war fighting, Plato is moving away from the ancient Greek Homeric model that so dominated the culture of his day. Nicias answers Laches, "Therefore, if a man is really courageous, it is clear that he is wise." (p, 38, (194d). However, when Socrates presses Nicias to explain what type of wisdom makes a person wise enough to be courageous he answers, "...it is the knowledge of the fearful and the hopeful in war and every other situation." (p, 39, (195a). Socrates is incredulous that Nicias argues that only people who can foretell future goods and evils will be able to act courageously, and for this reason, Socrates rejects Nicias' definition of courage. Socrates ends the dialogue abruptly because he sees that he is only getting examples of acts of courage in his questioning. His goal is to get to a definition, and to understand the essence of courage. With a definition, he can compare all examples of courage to it and then decide if the examples are truly acts of courage or not. In most of Plato's dialogues involving Socrates, his quest for a definition of a particular virtue ends in the same manner. At this point as in so many of Plato's dialogues, he ends his search for a definition of courage, but he takes it up again several years later in his Republic where he will introduce the element of education into the mix.
I recommend this book for anyone interested in virtue ethics, Greek philosophy, and military history.




